i found this:


but how do i use the "stalk" to navigate? i dont see a menu option etc...

i ask this because i have thoughts about getting a sony "stalk"

i got the stalk... but cant even access the menu.... do i have to set up ir_ translate first?

No, but you do have to enable the stalk in the player configuration. It's one of the options in the "Configure Player" screen in emplode if I recall correctly. Make sure to synch after changing the setting.

i tried that... still no go... but i have tried the ir_translate.. just have to test it in the car....

When you select the Hijack "Button Codes Display" feature on the player's screen, do you see anything when pressing the stalk buttons?

Just checking the basics here.. but, *exactly* how have you connected the stalk ?

(it does NOT plug into the sled wiring harness microphone jack!).

of course not... connected via the tuner, only that do work is that seek/ams ring can change visuals...

yeah.. all buttons give me the right codes

So let me be clear about what you're asking? As I understand it now, you're saying:

- The stalk seems to work.
- Using buttons on the stalk does all the right things, from what you can tell (can you change tracks?).
- You want to know which button on the stalk brings up the player's main menu, so that you can navigate the menu and make selections by twisting the stalk controls.

I've never used the stalk, so I don't know the answer to that question. I don't know if that's even implemented; I was under the impression that the stalk was mostly for volume and track changing and such, so it might be that this isn't implented at all, and that it was a design decision to implement it that way. Does anyone know the answer to this?

-I get the right codes in hijack
-No it does not
-Yes

back to the car

The answer is in the top post of this very thread: none of the buttons has "Menu" assigned to it by default.

If one is willing to give up an existing button/function in favour of a "menu button", then do so in this manner in config.ini:

[ir_translate]
Kxxxxx.L=Kxxxxx.L
Kxxxxx=Menu

Or possibly like this, so that a short press of the same button still has the original functionality, but a long press now brings up the menu:

[ir_translate]
Kxxxxx.L=Menu
Kxxxxx=Kxxxxx

Or even like this, so that a long press of that same button brings up the Hijack menu (same as on the IR remote control):

[ir_translate]
Kxxxxx=Menu

(all three completely untested, of course: that's your job).

Replace the Kxxxxx part by the name of the button you are modifying, from this list:

KOff, KSource, KAtt, KFront, KNext, KPrev, KVolUp, KVolDown, KRear, KBottom, or by one of the "shifted" button combinations (same as before, but with KS instead of K at the start of each button name (eg. KSSource).

-ml

no problem... no wonder why my ir_translate does not work:

[ir_translate]
;Sony Stalk
;
; Source
80000016=20df03
;
; volume up / down
80000013=VolUp
80000017=VolDown
;
;seek-ams
80000031.LT=B9460A.L,null ; In tuner, long press of left scans back
80000031.T=20DF10 ; In tuner, left seeks back
80000031.M=PrevTrack.N,Left.U ; In player, track-. In menu, left
80000013.LT=B9460B.L,null ; In tuner, long press of right scans forward
80000013.T=20DF11 ; In tuner, right seeks forward
80000013.M=NextTrack.N ,Right.U ; In player, track+. In menu, right
;
;off
80000030=20df03.L
;
;Mute
80000016=20df16
;
;menu
80000033=20df12
;
;
; Pioneer steeringheel remote
;
; The shift key
AD520C.L=20df03.L,null ; press and hold "ATT" = standby
AD520C=null.S ; "ATT" = Shift Key
;
; These are needed to ignore the "Func" button sending out a bogus code
AF5067=null
80AF5067=null
;
; Search macros
; used when shift-lock is active and long press
AD5212.LS=20df0e ; "1" PIN
AD5243.LS=20df0e,20df0e ; "6" year
AD520A.LS=20df0e,20df0e,20df0e ; "9" title
AD521A.LS=20df0e,20df0e,20df0e,20df0e ; "2" artist
AD5241.LS=20df0e,20df0e,20df0e,20df0e,20df0e ; "5" genre
AD5242.LS=20df0e,20df0e,20df0e,20df0e,20df0e,20df0e ; "3" source
;
; Numbers
; Shift lock active, short press
AD5212.S=20df00 ; 1
AD521A.S=20df01 ; 2
AD5242.S=20df02 ; 3
AD5240.S=20df04 ; 4
AD5243.S=20df05 ; 5
AD5241.S=20df06 ; 6
AD5219.S=20df08 ; 7
AD520D.S=20df09 ; 8
AD520A.S=20df0a ; 9
AD520B.S=20df0d ; 0
;
; volume up / down
; ??? AD520A.B
; ??? AD520B.A
AD520A=20df13,20df13,20df13,20df13,20df13
AD520B=20df17,20df17,20df17,20df17,20df17
;
; The "source button"
AD520D.LT=20df07,null ; AM/FM in tuner
AD520D.LM=20df0B,null ; select mode in player
AD520D.T=b9461e ; switch to player from tuner
AD520D.A=b9461e ; switch to player from Aux
AD520D.M=b9461c ; switch to tuner from player
;
; Setting the Prev/Next buttons to emulate front-panel allows
; press-and-hold to do manual tuning in tuner mode
AD5242.T=4;
AD5243.T=2;
AD5242.LM=b9460c.L ;Prev Track / Rewind
AD5243.LM=b9460d.L ; Next Track / Fast Forward
AD5242.M=20df10 ; Prev Track
AD5243.M=20df11 ; Next Track ;
;
; Normal functions
AD5212.L=20df15,null ; press and hold cancel = visual (makes no sense)
AD5212=20df0c ; cancel
AD521A.L=20df12.L ; menu/OK
AD521A=20df12 ; menu/OK
AD5240.L=20df16.L ; play
AD5240=20df16 ; play
AD5241.L=20df14.L ; info
AD5241=20df14 ; info
AD5219=FidEntry.N ; search
; ???

the part for the stalk corrected to:

Sony Stalk
;
; Source
KSource=20df03
;
; volume up / down
KVolUp=VolUp
KVolDown=VolDown
;
;seek-ams
KPrev.LT=B9460A.L,null ; In tuner, long press of left scans back
KPrev.T=20DF10 ; In tuner, left seeks back
KPrev.M=PrevTrack.N,Left.U ; In player, track-. In menu, left
KNext.LT=B9460B.L,null ; In tuner, long press of right scans forward
KNext.T=20DF11 ; In tuner, right seeks forward
KNext.M=NextTrack.N ,Right.U ; In player, track+. In menu, right
;
;off
KOff=20df03.L
;
;Mute
KAtt=20df16
;
;menu
KFront=20df12


testing i a few min (have to do a sync first)

Why are you (still) using hex values for most stuff??

was the fastest way

but the new ir_translate did not work...

only thing that do work is that the seek/ams ring can change visuals

Well, you could start by deleting everything from there, and using the built-in (defaults). Then start modifying anything you want to change, one button at a time.

And I'm still not sure what you are trying to accomplish with all of that complexity -- and no mention of a Menu button anywhere.

-ml

i tried with just hte built ins.... still only able to change the visuals with the seek/ams..

remember that if my ir_translate looks big it contains the pioneer steeringwhel remote (plan to take it out later)

btw... how should it work with the built in? if any know this i would have a point to start

but at least i can read the codes (in hijack) when i push'n'twist the darn thing

Most functions should "just work" if you nuke your entire "[ir_translate]" section (try it.. including getting rid of the Pioneer stuff temporarily).

The buttons mostly do what their names suggest: on/off, Source, Attenuate, Next/Prev (like the left/right front panel buttons), volume up/down, ..

Note that a reboot is required for any changes there to take effect.

hehe... the reboot comes by itself when i take it to the car

but right now i have removed the ir_translate complete and waiting for the sync to complete

btw... another funny thing is that when i set the boot logo in hijack to the "stock" logo where "tux" waves at you.. it always gives me the hijack verson... i have tried to set it both at home and in the car... same result

i have now nuked the entire ir_translate.. still only the seek/ams responds with a change in the visuals

and still if i look at the display button codes in hijack all buttons have a different code. so i know that it works.. partly

Try posting the entire config.ini file here for us.. probably something somewhere in there is interfering.

Cheers

[Network]
Gateway=192.168.1.1
Netmask=255.255.255.0
IPAddress=192.168.1.11
DHCP=0
[synchronise]
seq_num=40
[wendy]
flag_amount=0
[custom]
wendy=
[searches]
amount=0
[VisualFavourites_AM]
count=0
[VisualFavourites_AUX]
count=0
[VisualFavourites_DSP]
count=0
[VisualFavourites_FM]
count=0
[Options]
Name=Empeg
[controls]
stalk_side=right
[User Info]
Email=
Phone=
Name=Tina Andersen & Bo Herrmannsen
[display]
play_count=1
visual_names=1
caching=1
[kenwood]
disabled=0
[menu]
quit=0
sort_playlist=1
[shuffle]
deduplicate=1
[sense]
muteaction=0
mute=-1
[power]
off_timeout=60000
[hush]
hushpercent=20
[volumecap]
enabled=0
[ramp]
disabled=0
[tuner]
region=europe
[aux]
source=
title=
artist=
[hijack]
decimal_fidentry=1
;@MENUEXEC Set_Date_Time /rdate -s 192.168.1.1 &>/dev/null
temperature_correction=0 ;; default is -4
fan_control=1
fan_low=16
fan_high=21

my "farmers" logic say that this ini should work.... but i might be wrong

have i said something wrong?

Not at all. The config.ini you posted should work, the stalk should be doing more than just changing visuals.

Just for grins, when you press, say, the "Next Track" button on the stalk, what does the button codes display tell you?

(Just verifying that the stalk is sending the right signals to begin with.)

0x5b

but i have tried everything that comes to mind... but with the ini i just posted.. the only thing that do work is that seek/ams ring changes the visual... none of the other buttons make the player react...

Okay, according to the developer info page, 5b is the correct code for "next track" (actually seek+).

Why in blue blazes is it not working?

don't ask me.... has it anything to do with what software i run? i use the 3alpha11 developer... from time to time i need to be able to get to bash to perform drive test etc.